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[Andromeda18_]

but theres no real point until youve shifted the gut ...coz it will just make you look fatter!!! lose some of the gut then tone the abs i say...
in my opinion

You're absolutely right. In fact, once you lose all the fat covering your abs there won't be much need to do ab exercises (unless you want your abs to be big). I have a friend who's so skinny he's got amazing abs, all due to the fact there's no fat covering them.
I hardly ever do ab exercises, they're a real bother, but my abdomen is flat as a board. Of course it's harder for men to have a lean abdomen, you tend to acumulate fat there.