Let?s march to Washington.

[Elcoholic]

By the way both lincoln and reagan were hated in their time. Bush will probably be remembered as a great president in the future too...

Nah, he will be remembered as the president who ruined the good relations the US had with other countries and the unconditional trust those countries had in you. He'll be remembred for almost bankrupting your country. He'll be known for scandal after scandal like the Abu-Graib tortures, foreign prisons, illegaly holding citizens in guantanamo bay. He'll be remembered for starting 2 wars, neither of which he finished.

Now, for balance I must add that this is ofcourse a unique time in history. The US is under attack from a new force that the west has no experiece in fighting. Bush and his government (or any government) doesn't know what to do to fight this war so its all down to experimenting.
'Lets invade Afghanistan and see if that helps.'
'No?, well lets restrict the laws of our own citizens and see what that comes up with.' 'Doesn't work? Well, lets invade Iraq and see if we can get a democracy in the middle east.'
'What about all these suspected terrorists? Ahh, lets just put them away and we'll see what's left of them in 10 years. We can't proof their guilt be we also can't let them go.'

This is the stuff I don't agree with. What I do agree with is that something must be done to stop terrorists cause I do believe that what they want is to kill all non-muslims and make a muslim world order, worse than anything Bush can come up with.
In my country people can't be locked up for preparing an terrorist act or agreeing with terrorist motives. We've had guys with materials for bombs and blueprints of airports/nuclear facilities/governmental offices in their closets and they were still let go because there wasn't any proof they would have gone through with the thing. That's the same as an Palestinian getting arrested in Isreal with a explosive belt on and getting released with a fine for illegal fireworks.

Rules have to be changed with the change of times. The question is which rules and where's the line? And there's not alot of countries you can look to for advice since this situation is new for everyone.

And BTW, please tell me there will be a court case to determin if the tapping of phones was illegal or not? I mean the law says its illegal, Bush says he's allowed to do it through the patriot act. A court must decide who's right, right? If stuff like this is swept under the carpet than the US does have a great problem. Its not good when a president can do what he wants without being able to be held accountable.