02-17-2005, 06:53 PM
Well, without the pirates this is a conversation I have had before. A fight based in reality, (meaning no BS super human crap) and it would be an actual fight and not some sneak in and kill someone with out a confrontation, Samurai all the way. Here is why:
Samurai were a class all their own. They were the warrior class in paid service to the lords and vassals (ninja didn?t get paid unless it was specifically for mercenary work). Samurai. Arround 660 B.C.is when the Yamato State is said to be set up and this is where samurai weapons, armor and fighting begin to take shape. In 400 AD horses are used inbattle and by 900 Ad the warrior class has amassed considerable strength and prowess. In 1274 A.D Mongols invade and samurai learn different tactics in fighting wars (formations rather than single duals and such) and the sword become the primary weapon of war. In 1400 master swordsman begin to establish dojos to teach kenjutsu. The swors of samurai were high quality Hon-sanmai-awase-gitae or Shiho-zume-gitae with curved blades. The samurai is a warrior through and through, they have no other jobs, but did add to the cultural and inteletual world by authoring and making some art.
Ninjas are the peasants farmers and their fighting ability was derived out of a necessity to protect themselves during all the wars that raged across Japan through out it?s history. Ninja were mercenaries. Most were royalists. The two biggest families of ninjutsu, the Koga ninja and the Iga ninja, fought in many wars and sometimes on opposite sides. The training of ninja was not that structured. Their arts were heavily focused on stealth an intelligence gathering, and the Lords often would exploit this talent for the suppression of peasant revolts. The Ninja did fight in direct combat, but were far from masters of it. They were many years behind the highly organized warts arts of the samurai. Even their eqipment was on a lower level. Swords were of a significant lower quality and were often used as blunt tool objects;they would usaly carry Maru-gitae mass production grade swords that used cheap one grade steel.
Pirates are barbarians on boats, they aren?t even warriors and would be a waste of time to anylaize. An able Ninja or Samurai would trounce any pirate even on a ship.
Samurai were a class all their own. They were the warrior class in paid service to the lords and vassals (ninja didn?t get paid unless it was specifically for mercenary work). Samurai. Arround 660 B.C.is when the Yamato State is said to be set up and this is where samurai weapons, armor and fighting begin to take shape. In 400 AD horses are used inbattle and by 900 Ad the warrior class has amassed considerable strength and prowess. In 1274 A.D Mongols invade and samurai learn different tactics in fighting wars (formations rather than single duals and such) and the sword become the primary weapon of war. In 1400 master swordsman begin to establish dojos to teach kenjutsu. The swors of samurai were high quality Hon-sanmai-awase-gitae or Shiho-zume-gitae with curved blades. The samurai is a warrior through and through, they have no other jobs, but did add to the cultural and inteletual world by authoring and making some art.
Ninjas are the peasants farmers and their fighting ability was derived out of a necessity to protect themselves during all the wars that raged across Japan through out it?s history. Ninja were mercenaries. Most were royalists. The two biggest families of ninjutsu, the Koga ninja and the Iga ninja, fought in many wars and sometimes on opposite sides. The training of ninja was not that structured. Their arts were heavily focused on stealth an intelligence gathering, and the Lords often would exploit this talent for the suppression of peasant revolts. The Ninja did fight in direct combat, but were far from masters of it. They were many years behind the highly organized warts arts of the samurai. Even their eqipment was on a lower level. Swords were of a significant lower quality and were often used as blunt tool objects;they would usaly carry Maru-gitae mass production grade swords that used cheap one grade steel.
Pirates are barbarians on boats, they aren?t even warriors and would be a waste of time to anylaize. An able Ninja or Samurai would trounce any pirate even on a ship.
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