02-02-2005, 12:59 PM
balthier Wrote:Yeah you're absolutely right. All because someone says they're a christian doesn't mean they "follow" christianity. If they did they wouldnt be lustful or materialistic but ya know what? They are. Thats why I stated earlier only 90% (i dont know the exact amount but VERY FEW) actually follow their religion, including priests and all those high up religious people.
I don't go to church or worship, but I have christian beliefs and at the same time I translate the bibles symbolism in to something different then what "regular christians" are taught in church. I think taking the bible literal is stupid and blindly believing it means you are flawed, because if you go and "blindly" believe the first thing that is taught to you, you could be making a mistake, especially if you keep on blindly believing things only to be shocked and have a nervous break down when you realize the harsh truth.
I guess what I meant about atheists being carnal is.. atheists "beliefs" are selfish, because they want the proof and facts to everything before they believe anything to be true. Carnal meaning controlled by ones emotions... well if you have to experience things to believe them I'd say you're controlled by emotions. If there is a force driving you that isn't directly related to "how you momentarily feel" then you are beyond carnal. Alot of religious people are just as selfish as athiests if not more selfish, but they are hypocrites to the doctrines of their religion.
It seems to me you see human beings as black and white creatures. We're not, we're gray. I need things to be proved for me to believe them, I live by my emotions yet I keep them under control, I believe in abstract things like love and kindness and these are no different than faith. I've been in a terrible car accident in which a truck smashed the car I was in against another truck in front of the car. My boyfriend was stuck inside, the firefighters had to cut the car open to get him out and all of this happened because the truck driver was talking on his cell phone while driving. Did I get mad at him? No, I didn't. People talk on the phone while driving, they shouldn't, but they do, it happens, it was an accident. I was the one who told the man to calm down 'cause he really thought he had killed us. I, like most people, can be extremelly good or extremelly evil. It has nothing to do with being an atheist or a believer. I don't go around killing people and that's because it's common sense, I think of the consequences, to me and to others. I don't need to believe in a higher being to control myself, to live in society and be nice to others. This is what I mean by "gray". Everybody is capable of the best and of the worst and it's not religion that prevents or promotes either, even when people use it as an excuse for both. People believe in god because it's conforting, many because they were taught to believe their whole lives, because they just do, but that doesn't make them any better than non-believers, any less selfish, any less evil, or carnal or whatever because in the end they're just human beings.