02-01-2005, 04:40 PM
Andromeda18_ Wrote:I've just read this entire thread and I think this discussion isn't going anywhere. Why? Because when it comes to religion the most one can and should do is give one's opinion because trying to change other people's minds just makes them stubbornly hold on to their beliefs. I'm an atheist. I don't believe in gods or devils or anything of the sort and as I've said before even if a god was to show itself to me it wouldn't make any difference. I'd believe it's existence to be true but I wouldn't woship it or anything, I'd have no reason to do so. That said, I respect other people's beliefs. As far as I'm concerned people are free to believe whatever they want. It's true many religious institutions have done a lot of wrong things throughout the ages but that doesn't justify persecuting it's members. The only thing that saddens me is how blind and closeminded many religious people are, doing absurd things in their religion's name.
Oh and Balthier, atheists are no more carnal than any other person. Being a believer doesn't make a person any less materialistic and lustful as you can easily see just by looking around yourself.
Yeah you're absolutely right. All because someone says they're a christian doesn't mean they "follow" christianity. If they did they wouldnt be lustful or materialistic but ya know what? They are. Thats why I stated earlier only 90% (i dont know the exact amount but VERY FEW) actually follow their religion, including priests and all those high up religious people.
I don't go to church or worship, but I have christian beliefs and at the same time I translate the bibles symbolism in to something different then what "regular christians" are taught in church. I think taking the bible literal is stupid and blindly believing it means you are flawed, because if you go and "blindly" believe the first thing that is taught to you, you could be making a mistake, especially if you keep on blindly believing things only to be shocked and have a nervous break down when you realize the harsh truth.
I guess what I meant about atheists being carnal is.. atheists "beliefs" are selfish, because they want the proof and facts to everything before they believe anything to be true. Carnal meaning controlled by ones emotions... well if you have to experience things to believe them I'd say you're controlled by emotions. If there is a force driving you that isn't directly related to "how you momentarily feel" then you are beyond carnal. Alot of religious people are just as selfish as athiests if not more selfish, but they are hypocrites to the doctrines of their religion.
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