01-12-2005, 02:52 PM
elcoholic Wrote:Plus, I've been hearing the difficult programming part of the ps2 for years now. I don't buy it anymore. The ps2 didn't come falling out of space. Someone created it and your telling me that he can't explain how to opperate it, even after all those years? I think the max. has been reached for the ps2. Any prettier and it'll drop to few frames per second which happens to to many new ps2 games already.
No i am not saying the GC is more powerful. I am saying don't compare power just because of the numbers when they don't really mean anything anymore.. Compare game quailty and what you like in the games not the machines themselves. Also i think its a little unfair to say Ninja Gaiden and Halo and all those are on the Xbox just because of the power of the xbox. really when they don't have a chance when Microsoft pays the companys to get exclusive deals on there platform. like when they purchased RareSoft to make games for just there system. And most of you probably already know Halo was originally going to be a game for the PC but microsoft paid Bungie to make it exclusive launch title for the xbox. (hate to say it but smart choice there for Microsoft as its the most known title for the xbox)
Also the hard programming part. Is because the PS2 used a totally different method of processing the games.. Programmers that had been programming games for ages had to rethink and rework how they been doing things. the ps2 has major bandwith channels on the board and has enough power to process it on the fly.. While conventional programming is not like this.. they normal buffer stuff in memory and edit it there and such. I will try to find a link that will explain how much more difficult it is to program with..
I also think the funny thing is that the Xbox 2 will be using the same Processor arch that the gamecube used. ;o) PowerPC chips.. or more so G5 chips. Though i still wanna see what Sony's Cell ship does..
And don't you all think its strange? IBM is devloping or working with all of them Microsoft, Nindento, and Sony for there next gen processors.. Along with ATI is with Microsoft and Nintendo while sony is now going to use NVidia graphics chip.
P.S. wow man when i type i have no coherence in my thought process.. i bounce everywhere after reading my post again.. So short version.
1.) No GC is not powerful. Don't compare #'s compare games created on the systems if anything.
2.) Will attempt to find link about the programming architecture. And just a statement its so complex to emulate the PS2 right now you only get 3-5 fps on a 3ghz processor. Which again like you said is Sony's fault.
3.) Ryujin its not a custom built GeForce 3. its more GeForce 2.5 even the numbers on the core chip state it.. (Will get them when i get home its like NV25) They built the GeForce 3 *after* they developed the Xbox's graphics chip which they used some of the stuff they put into the chip.