12-21-2004, 09:10 PM
Zagatto Wrote:Instead of thinking of it as feeling in terms of choice think of it as the type of women you like. No matter how much I like women, I get right turned off by those 500 lb ladies you see posing for the fatty magazines. There are guys who like their women that way. I don't think that's a choice that is made. I think it's just the way someone is wired or whatever events shape their life.
On a more basic level what about people who like tomatoes and people who don't like tomatoes. Is that a choice that people make to not like a food?
So lets extend this to being homosexual. Does someone choose to prefer attraction to men rather than women? I don't think so. It's kind of like deciding to like a different type of food or shape of body.
Just to complicate matters, a persons taste changes throughout their life. They may discover over time that they enjoy the taste of tomatoes. I'm going to let this thread hang here.
The biggest argument I HATE is that being gay isn't NATURAL. We're born naked but clothing is manufactured to keep us warm. That's one unnatural thing that everyone I know accepts as a normal thing. How about these computers? I'm pretty sure they didn't naturally grow on trees so that makes them pretty unnatural. I'm trying to imagine this forum existing without them though. Or how about braces? ...or marriage? ...or baptism? ...or any number of other man-made things that people accept as normal?
So what is it about homosexuality that is so unnatural? If you're concerned about the propagation of the species then it's a good thing that homosexuals are typically ok with surrogate parents. Oh wait... that's another of those "unnatural" concepts that humans have come up with.
I'm getting all worked up here again. Gay bashing in any form bugs me in a big way.
I'd before I write something I'd have to ban myself for.
I wasn't trying to use naturalness or whatever to justify not like gay people or anything like that; just because something isn't natural doesn?t mean it isn't any less significant. I was just commenting on the fact that it isn't natural for the sake of arguing that it isn?t. I don't think anyone that has commented yet does have full on hate for gays. I haven?t done one bit of gay bashing the whole time and I haven?t witnessed any either (not saying I didn?t miss it, just haven?t seen any). I don?t like gayness, but as I?ve said before, only shallow people judge themselves and others based purely on sexuality. Putting yourself or others in a box is dumb. But is my choice to not like it any less valid than people who do choose to like it? It is really none of my business to tell anyone else how to live their lives, and if I were to tell a gay couple that I don?t approve of what they were doing, I would hope to get punched in the face. Needless to say I don?t do that, because it would be wrong. Am I digging a hole?
I know decisions are heavily influenced by the way one feels, but it is kind of like what you said about the food Zagatto, I?m sure everyone remembers eating veggies that you didn?t like; eventually you learn to like them or your parents don?t give you food at all. Yes it is a crappy decision, but you still make it.