The reason to own a gamecube
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Ryujin Wrote:Ok where to start...

You say that you believe that Nintendo and Atari and all the other companies at the time was fair, yet by your own admission you don't know enough about it to comment, so don't make assumptions.

Nextly, you say that Sony and Nintendo are equals?? Hold on, I just want to address this in itself before I go on with anything else. Firstly Nintendo has been in the gaming industry for a long time, they have established many franchises and have alot of gaming experience. Nintendo is a developer and a hardware manufacturer, Sony is not a developer, even though they own a few developement houses (same with Microsoft). Sony has a MASSIVE amount of money to throw behind their console compared to Nintendo, nearly as much as Microsoft. Sony has their fingers in ALOT of pies, movies, music, millions of different electronics and personal entertainment products. They are worth BILLIONS!!!. And as it stands, from the last generation and this one Sony has a HUGE market share over nintendo as far as consoles sold, game sales, and profits.

Now, when Sony first came into the market, they were the newcommer with the dissadvantage and they had to fight against the SEGA and Nintendo with their already established brand recognition and characters, because again, both SEGA and Nintendo are developers. So how you ever saw things as equal is beyond me. So I find it odd that you have so much hatred for Microsoft for being the "newcommer". Sony was the newcommer last generation and they have basically succeeded in all the things that you fear Microsoft may do. So..if by your logic, Microsoft bring out an X-box 2, will they be ok to like then?

As for that crap about the "natural balance being thrown into chaos", what the hell are you talking about? this is an ever changing market of products being sold to people for money. There is nothing natural about any of it, artificial products, being sold in a market created by an artificial society, for an artificial legal currency. You need to stop living in your fantasy world.

Again you seem to be fine about Nintendo being a "tyrant" and yet when you misspercieve Microsoft as it, then it is somehow wrong or evil?

As for growing up with certain brands, people do that all the time. I grew up with all the same gaming brands as you, the difference is that my mind and perception are not clouded by unfounded bias coupled missconceptions and ignorance about the truth.

As for loyalty and patriotism, I'll assume that you live in the US for now, could be wrong but here goes anyway. If you were truely "loyal" and "patriotic" then wouldn't you support the console that is made in your own country as opposed to machines and companies made in a foreign country, Japan?. Besides all I view "loyalty" and "patriotism" as are ways to maipulate people to an end. But thats for a different day.

As for Microsoft not needing to get into the games industry, the same could be said about Sony, who were a huge electronics and entertainment company, Nintendo itself was originally a playing card company, couldn't it be argued that they didn't "need" to get into the games industry?? Thats a foolish point and has no validity.

As for Microsoft not taking this seriously, thats pretty funny considering that they have brought about the most comprehensive online service to consoles ever, including both an ethernet card for connection to the internet and a Hard Drive built in. When Nintendo does not even have an online strategy, the only online game that they have is not even made by them, its made by Sega AND its a port of an old Dreamcast game.

Speaking of SEGA, it could be argued that Sony drove SEGA out of the hardware market, yet again I don't see you giving even the slightest thought to that. A 1 on 1 match between Sony and Nintendo? You seem to have forgotten SEGA who are no longer in hardware. Besides, its a dumb point, Microsofts console was announced long before the Gamecube was released, so its hardly like Sony and Ninendo were having this battle and Microsoft just jumped in out of the blue.

As for the 2 on one, its hard as if Microsoft and Sony are combining their efforts to rid the world of Nintendo.

As for your comment about me having something against Sony or Nintendo, yes I hate them both, thats why I have their consoles and play their games and enjoy them, and have done so in previous generations, its all my secret plan just to spite them Rolleyes

Of course I'm not biased, I really hate when fanboys try to make it out to seem that an unbiased person is biased just because they dissagree with them. If someone said something similar about Sony or Nintendo then I would defend them in the same way. I'm just trying to open your eyes to the reality of the situation.

And as far as I can tell by your post, Microsofts only "crime" in your eyes is that they did not release a console sooner. I mean if you had played on a Microsoft console as a kid would this debate be the other way around? its seems that way.

Which is why I would like you to grow up and stop being biased. Because it is foolish, I mean really think about it. Don't be so deluded.

Ok first of all I want to address the issues about Sony and Nintendo. I vew both as equals

because of their creativity and a sort of nobleness that they show. Microsoft may have

creativity which, I sincerly doubt but the do not have the ability to be noble. Again you

called me a Nintendo fanboy. Let me tell you this when it was Nintendo and Sega I was

rooting for Sega. Howeveer it was apparent that Sega's heart was not into the gaming

business. Therefore it was inevitable that the Genesis would die. Sad as that fact is, it is

there. However, wharn Sega came back with the Dreamcast they had learned from their

mistakes and actually lasted longer. I was totally hoping that Sega would turn out to be a

major competitor. However, either Nintendo beat them again or Sony did. As for liking

Nintendo over Sony it is because I respect Nintendo more. Sony was so arrogant as to

claim their new system would be the best before it was even out and started trashing

Sega and Nintendo. That seriously lowered my respect for them and when Nintendo did

not do the same made me respect them more. I believe that if you are going to brag then

have something to back it up. Don't do it when noone can dipute you. I mean this was at a

time when Noone could try the PS2 because it was a still being worked on. Not even being

in demo stage and saying that disgusted me.


As for the natural balance being thrown into chaos there are now two evil corporations

fighting a good one. If Sega were to appear again then the good one Nintendo would have

some sort of backup. This is not to say that any corporation is good but Nintendo is closer

to being on the side of good than Microsoft or Somy is. The battle between Nintendo and

Sony was a small sacle battle between the forces of good and evil. However we all know

that when another evil comes along they either help the already exidting evil and betray

them later or they try to destroy the existing evil with the good on their own. Microsoft is

doing a little of both. As for Microsoft jumping out of the blue, even if they didn't they

chose the time that the Cube was being worked on to announce their entrance. This

reinforces my point as the did this so Nintendo would start panicking. I know I would. You

say you like both Sony and Nintendo huh? Sorry wasn't sure about that. I notice you keep

calling me a fanboy and that is not true. As for Nintendo and Sega they have through their

actions won my respect.. As for Sony and Microsoft the have yet to as their actions are

closer to the evil spectrum of the universe than are Nintendo's and Sega's. AS for loyalty

and patriotism being a way to manipulate people to an end I don't view that as true. Yes

they probably can be manipulated but that does not make thes ideals evil. As for being

biased I may be biased but at least not in favor of the evil spectrum. Good and evill exists

everywhere including the world of gaming corporations. I believe however that Sega and

now only Nintendo is the representative of good while Microsoft and Sony are the

representative of evil or maybe Sony is neutral leaning toward evil. However the fact stiil

remains that chaos reigns in the gaming world and the only way balance can be reached

is if one is eliminated. For all our sakes and for the sakes of our minds and souls I hope it

is Microsoft. This would not only restore Blance to the world of gaming but also to the

universe. I accept Sony as a neccesary to keep this balance and yes I own both a PS2

and a Cube. Anyway I look forward to your reply to this. As for being a fanboy I know I

am not one so pleasee stop calling me that. I think if you want to call me something then

call me a mystic gamer. Well that is my reply for now. Long live the Holy of Nintendo (at

least unless the the Holy Sega Empire comes back to fight).
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Ryo of Inferno...Taooo Jiiiinnn
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The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-09-2004, 06:36 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Last Exile - 11-09-2004, 07:44 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by evilomar - 11-09-2004, 08:24 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-09-2004, 09:26 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Last Exile - 11-09-2004, 09:28 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by -spike- - 11-09-2004, 09:52 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-11-2004, 01:40 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-11-2004, 02:32 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-11-2004, 05:00 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-12-2004, 08:43 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Mantis421 - 11-12-2004, 12:42 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-12-2004, 05:06 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-13-2004, 12:55 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-13-2004, 01:35 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-13-2004, 08:00 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-13-2004, 10:39 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by sanosuke - 11-13-2004, 11:37 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-14-2004, 12:30 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-14-2004, 12:43 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-14-2004, 01:04 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-14-2004, 01:14 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-14-2004, 01:27 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-14-2004, 01:40 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-14-2004, 11:55 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Cidien - 11-14-2004, 03:15 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-15-2004, 05:02 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-15-2004, 12:12 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by evilomar - 11-15-2004, 03:15 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-16-2004, 04:30 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-16-2004, 04:41 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-16-2004, 03:53 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Cidien - 11-16-2004, 03:58 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by rav96 - 11-16-2004, 06:05 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by -spike- - 11-16-2004, 07:15 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-17-2004, 10:50 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-17-2004, 10:59 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-17-2004, 09:27 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-18-2004, 04:27 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Elcoholic - 11-18-2004, 05:10 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Zagatto - 11-18-2004, 06:14 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Elcoholic - 11-18-2004, 06:36 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-18-2004, 08:05 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-18-2004, 08:49 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-19-2004, 03:38 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-19-2004, 10:14 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-19-2004, 12:31 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-19-2004, 02:38 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-19-2004, 08:07 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-19-2004, 11:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-19-2004, 11:23 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-19-2004, 11:38 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-19-2004, 11:48 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-19-2004, 11:55 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-20-2004, 02:18 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 03:11 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 03:13 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 03:16 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 03:22 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by evilomar - 11-20-2004, 09:10 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-20-2004, 02:39 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-20-2004, 02:48 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-20-2004, 02:55 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-20-2004, 02:57 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-20-2004, 03:17 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 10:31 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-21-2004, 12:52 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-21-2004, 09:00 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-21-2004, 03:31 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by vietthuggin607 - 12-03-2004, 09:26 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-04-2004, 03:04 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-04-2004, 03:39 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-04-2004, 12:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 12-04-2004, 03:03 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-04-2004, 04:39 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 12-04-2004, 04:47 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-05-2004, 01:59 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-05-2004, 03:27 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Elcoholic - 12-05-2004, 10:32 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 12-05-2004, 10:42 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by onizuka17711 - 12-05-2004, 04:19 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-06-2004, 03:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-06-2004, 03:13 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-06-2004, 05:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-06-2004, 08:39 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 12-06-2004, 10:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-09-2004, 06:29 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-09-2004, 10:31 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-10-2004, 12:40 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-10-2004, 02:52 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-10-2004, 03:15 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-10-2004, 03:54 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-10-2004, 04:03 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 12-16-2004, 05:25 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 12-16-2004, 05:58 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-16-2004, 07:08 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Black Howling - 01-05-2005, 10:07 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 01-06-2005, 01:11 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Zagatto - 01-06-2005, 07:43 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 01-06-2005, 08:50 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Zagatto - 01-06-2005, 09:02 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 01-06-2005, 03:22 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by rav96 - 11-17-2004, 03:01 PM

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