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Originally posted by kakomu
Hey guys, just wanted to give a heads up on using OGG audio as well. Granted for a while I really liked using OGG since I could get much smaller file sizes, however, the problem I've encountered was that the playback filters for OGG are still a little buggy. It doesn't seem to like to play at the same time as other audio files (if you pause a movie for a second, the computer will buzz at you). Ogg has also been known to just plain have problems with other computers. A friend of mine can't even use OGG on her computer with it restarting (using WMP that is. she can use winamp, however, we had to rename the file to *.avi)

Well for one i wouldn't use WMP its a piece of shit.. And if you are looking for direct show filters that play OGG better then Torbias's then look at this
http://corecodec.org/projects/corevorbis/ its alot better then the normal OggDS filters.. Or you can get media player class http://sf.net/projects/guliverkli which has a OGM parser filter already built into the player and supports everything out of the box.. i am telling you this is one fo the best media players out there.. Gabest the writer considers the lack of skin support a "feature" which i will agree with him because skinning in a media player is useless because you don't look at the whole thing all the time all it needs to do is just play video.

Originally posted by kakomu
Also, simple thing to keep in mind concerning conversion from OGM to the mpeg-2 format, using VDUB Mod, you can extract each individual audio file as a wav, then use your video stream in your DVD program (so long as the program can accept DivX/Xvid/whatever) and load each individual audio file seperately.

Yea its a pain in the ass but it can be done.. thats what was asked..

Originally posted by kakomu
I also don't care much for the softsubs in OGM, they are rather hard to work with and make just right and I don't like the inability to make different colors. Granted, you don't have to worry about the inferior quality of the encode due to the sharp lines of text (a few of my encodes have come up rather bleh becaues the subtitles were too weird a color or the font made everything in that area look all screwy), it's just that soft subs are always just a tad finnicky (DVD subs included). Maybe I haven't seen them done right (only downloaded one encode with them, and haven't had much success myself).

Ok don't confuse SRT softsubs with SSA.. SSA you can do different colors effects and such.. if you want a GOOD demo example with softsubs in Mkv files go here this shows the true Power of Softsubs (but you would never need it truthfully this much) Also note all Fansubs now use SSA as there Subs system not srt as what comes with OggDS.
http://dl.matroska.org/samples/mewmew/index.html

Originally posted by kakomu
However, when it comes down to it, I'm the type of guy who has been making 2 CD encodes of movies I really like (I only encode movies I like, and I've made very few 1 CD encodes in the last 4 years). To the respect, I've found little need for using the OGM on a continual basis compared to the more easily useable avi. I think the main drawback is that so few people have heard of OGG or OGM (let alone installed the plaback drivers) which can be a major crimp when trying to watch movies on other people's computer. i remember a while ago when I was trying to get my prisitne Raiders of the Lost Ark Encodes to work on someone's computer and it was just really hard to get it to eventually play. Unless I have a reason to use it (soft subs or really small audio file or mulitple small audio files) I'l stick with AVI until it becomes more of a norm, much like Xvid and every new iteration of DivX back in the earlier days of their development, I wouldn't touch them until they would become a bit more proven in the field as I don't have the time or patience (let alone computing power :p) to test each codec beta. Granted afterwards, I could go ahead and encode until my heart's content (my first encodes were Eva R1s a long time ago, and it took about 2-3 weeks worth of testing to get some Nandub settings I really got good quality out of). So in the end, if you plan to encode in OGM for your own consumption, go right ahead, however, if you plan on sharing with your friends or distroing it online, beware that many people won't have the proper codecs and may prove to be a pain (so far, I think I only know one person whom has installed OGM/OGG with me, and that's only because both of us have been encoding movies together and working with each other for the past 3-4 years), otherwise, it's up to you.

Actually now a days Video codecs are good enough so you can put a full length movie onto 1 cd and still be awesome quality. i Personally use Xvid for all my video encoding and Ogg as the audio put into a MKV file. which MPC also has a internal filter for.. So i generally just burn Media Player Classic onto the cd (sinces its only 1 meg) and you can overburn 1 meg. and i never have a problem taking my video anywhere to play.. Since MPC has everything internally.. also for Video decoding i perfer http://sf.net/projects/ffdshow it can decode Xvid, Divx, anything else you through at it..

Originally posted by w0lf
I hear ya man, this OGG/OGM stuff is a bit buggy like you mentioned, most of my problems have been in the soft subs (go figure). I really would prefer a well encoded AVI with hard subs and jp audio. I know a english/japanese audio debate could last for pages upon pages, but in my honest opinion, anime shouldn't be distro'd if it isn't subbed. I have encoded in XVID time and again, and have always loved the results. I haven't been too fond of DIVX lately, mostly for the reason that it isn't open-source, and I have had great results without it. I have no problems with the codec personally though. -____- Testing codec betas isn't too bad, but like you said it is very time consuming... seeing what each option does, and whether it helps or not can be a real pain.

Its mostly if you have the right DirectShow filters.. if you get the ones i have suggested in this thread or if you read on the MewMew demo page you won't have any problems with softsubs at all.