06-19-2003, 04:50 PM
sanosuke see this is the art of discussion. We don't need to change anyone's mind, but more of understanding there view (right or wrong) Your right in that fact that you were not totally contradicting yourself, but on the same note you really can't throw Beebop and Lupin in the same group. Beebop does have an underline story that comes at you full force in the later episodes.
While Lupin on the other hand is much more akin to American style. New story everyday nothing ever really changes but if you stick with it... it benefits those who have watched from the first to the latest episode. Like the Simpsons...
Steve You are no fan boy, but you have strong arguments. I agree with you on every point. But we are not trying to change anyone. This is why I put up this thread. Like a Dub vs Sub not going to change a damn thing, but it lets you see a different view and brings around wonderful discussions. Which this is a damn good one...
kakomu You sited a source... in John from Anime Nation...ok Look yes John is a wealth of Anime Knowledge,but I live here in Japan! I have 30 to 52 Japanese Fire Fighters that bring in a Jump, Suir-gen, or a personal Manga magazine everyday each. That's 60 Japanese men bringing in something that "they grew out of" The have not 1 but 5 anime networks. And the local channels 40% of there air time is given to anime. Hey let's not even go into this but here is a little fact for ya Japanese Manga makes more money each year than Marvel & DC comics combined times 3. The only group in Japan that shows any signs of "growing out of it" are women. Which according to the Okinawa Paper (before you ask Schultz I had Iskawa look it up for me) as women get older there numbers start to fall where in at age 30 only 45% of women still read Manga everyday. 45% when don't even have that good of a figure in the amount of men watching anime in the states at any age...
Look you have good points but you need to present strong facts to back up your point.
While Lupin on the other hand is much more akin to American style. New story everyday nothing ever really changes but if you stick with it... it benefits those who have watched from the first to the latest episode. Like the Simpsons...
Steve You are no fan boy, but you have strong arguments. I agree with you on every point. But we are not trying to change anyone. This is why I put up this thread. Like a Dub vs Sub not going to change a damn thing, but it lets you see a different view and brings around wonderful discussions. Which this is a damn good one...
kakomu You sited a source... in John from Anime Nation...ok Look yes John is a wealth of Anime Knowledge,but I live here in Japan! I have 30 to 52 Japanese Fire Fighters that bring in a Jump, Suir-gen, or a personal Manga magazine everyday each. That's 60 Japanese men bringing in something that "they grew out of" The have not 1 but 5 anime networks. And the local channels 40% of there air time is given to anime. Hey let's not even go into this but here is a little fact for ya Japanese Manga makes more money each year than Marvel & DC comics combined times 3. The only group in Japan that shows any signs of "growing out of it" are women. Which according to the Okinawa Paper (before you ask Schultz I had Iskawa look it up for me) as women get older there numbers start to fall where in at age 30 only 45% of women still read Manga everyday. 45% when don't even have that good of a figure in the amount of men watching anime in the states at any age...
Look you have good points but you need to present strong facts to back up your point.
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