Ok we need to Educate

[Steve_the_Talking_Pie]

Originally posted by kakomu
regardless of what you say, what adults watched when they're kids and whoever praises miyazaki, what we're arguing here boils down to one's own perception and definition. I never said anime was for kids (and to the contrary, I said "It just so happens that Japanese cartoons are aimed at teens") Afterwards, I said there is a point that people grow out of Japanese cartoons and cited a source. lastly, to call one's opinion crappy, and to insult me is uncalled for. Since when is arguing over the definition of cartoon worth name calling? It makes you look childish.

Lastly, it seems you are calling animated shows that are american "cartoons" and Animated shows that are Japanese as if there are some sort of defining factor that makes them ultimately different just because they were produced in a different region. If you're going to say that anime is not a cartoon based on who it's aimed at, why not at least conceed that other animes like Ranma, Azumanga daioh, Excel Saga and Nadesico (while may contain some themes aimed at older people in the 14-16 range) are ultimately just silly shows, and by your definition would place them into cartoon territory. Unless you want to make a fundamental difference: American animation is cartoon! Japanese Animation is NOT cartoon!

Edit: If you don't conceed the part of the argument, i refuse to argue since it seems you're seperating them solely on where they're made and nothing more.

I don't think I ever had any name calling. I didn't like your theory and I never outright badmouthed you. You seem to take things to heart, welcome to the real world, I wish I could make a list of things people say to me everyday.

I said it's not aimed at teens, because you have to look at series that I cited like Brother Dear Brother. I addressed your concern of perception with my friends versus a friend's parent. The separation of shows was not intentionally made, but we can go into it. Let's look at a 1985 show entitled Super Bestial Machine God Dancougar. It was a mecha show, that aired in the evening. It dealt with war and in fact it paralleled ideas from the Holocaust. It showed pillage and rape, in the worst kind. Take a look at what's on in that same time slot in America, The Wild Thornberry's which deals with a talking monkey. Hilarious yes, the same kind of message, no. Never did I say, that anime didn't target young age groups, there is just a wider spectrum of viewers. We need to set some definitions out before we could argue further.

Also regions matter. Have you watched some Hindi films. The average Hindi film runs for 2 and 1/2 hours. The notion of spending money on a film 90 minutes long is unheard of. Likewise, each movie will always have musical numbers. You don't see that in America. (By the way my brother and father lived in India for a while, and have brought back many films. I've watched them all and enjoy them thoroughly. I also love Hindi Pop).

Don't mistake me for a raving fan boy. I don't want to be Japanese. I don't automatically think because something is Japanese it is better. It's all based on merit. I have a wide variety of interests, and hobbies. As for this topic, I'm done. I don't feel like arguing over a topic that will change nothing.