And E3 unofficially begins...

[Andromeda18_]

FF is dead, ff12 looks like the worst crap since x-2, why the hell do the characters need to look like gay japanese pop singers, and the bunny people, come on thats the best they could do, garbage.

The future of rpg's are games like fable, a lot of people said it was a let down but what else is out there that compares, nothing.
And just cause a character might look great doesnt mean anything, look at ffx they looked awesome but were all shallow and had no decent story.

Yeah well, FF might be dead to you and I respect that but it certainly isn't dead to the world. FFX is a good example of that. All the people that hate it didn't stop it from becoming one of the top twenty best-selling console games of all time. FFXII sold more than 2 million copies in 5 weeks in Japan. It has been almost 2 years since any game has sold over 2 million copies in Japan. The last game to sell over that many was Dragon Quest VIII (released in Japan in 2004). The truth is the FF games still sell like hot cakes, they're far from dead.

What's more, if anyone has played a game like KOTOR or Fallout, they may not have gone to such lengths to alter your character specifically, but they did a much greater job of making the world you live in react to you, and remain lengthy and engaging.

I agree that lots of people will continue to buy FF games, but I also think beyond his one sided hate, Geo has a point. I'm also sick of Bishonen bastards polluting games. GTFO pretty boys!!! Hell, even the girls all being flawless piss me off. Not everyone is beautiful. Especially not really strong fighters. Why does every SE party character have to either be a Seraphim of an animal person? I know it is a game, and I have said before that I like unrealistic games, but I am also a writer. I can no longer put up with these cliché riddled and uninspired characters. Contrary to popular belief, Yuna was the worst character from FF10. Everyone complains about Tidus, but at least if someone would have replaced him with a cardboard cut out, people would have noticed. Yuna lacked, well, a soul for one thing, and she was just too one dimensional and uninteresting to me.

Eye candy is not for me. If that is what you like in games, I think FF will do fine for you. And it will unquestionably provide lots of people with hours of game play, but I've just moved past their flat characters and gleaming surface. I need more than perfect hair and unblemished skin from my RPG's.

I remember we already discussed this before, it was about FFVII Advent Children if I'm not mistaken. You have every right not to like pretty people/characters but that doesn't mean pretty people/characters can't be deep and meaningful. That's like saying blondes are dumb when in fact that's what's dumb. Beautiful people are beautiful by nature, it doesn't stop them from being tough warriors. Being ugly isn't a requirement to be tough, that's just another stereotype.

I dont hate FF I enjoy 7 and 8 but think its gone to S**T. The only good ffx character was auron and he was old ugly had a scar and walked around in that distinct samurai arm hang, they dont need to be pretty.

The best characters are flawed characters, otherwise as blight put it you get souless characters.

I have a question, did sakaguchi work on ffx or 12?

As far as the pretty actor thing goes, thats an american flaw, was toshiro mifune attractive or handsome, no he was quite unattractive but that didnt detract from his awesome acting skill and 1 in a million personality.

That's not an American flaw, believe me. If you take a good look around you, you'll notice pretty actors are everywhere, not just in America. In fact, there are way more pretty actors in Asia than in America. Also, nobody said only pretty actors were good actors but they sure attract a wider audience, for better or worse. Why do you think all these pretty girls and boys keep selling millions of cds? Because they're good musicians? No (well, they might be), because they're pretty. There are good and bad actors and they can be pretty or ugly, one thing doesn't exclude the other. And when it comes to Toshiro Mifune, acting skills apart, he was born in Japan in a time when men were expected to be strong, independent, and careless about their appearance. That's no longer the case (there or here). I suggest you take a look at this article: http://www.albany.edu/ws/journal/takizawa3.html it's an interesting read.
And I'll say this again, a character doesn't have to be physically flawed ('cause that's what were talking about) to be soulful, he can be flawed in terms of personality.

Sakaguchi was the executive producer in both FFX and FFX-2 but he wasn't involved in the making of FFXII.

BTW....

for any who go to the link that I posted...go to search and everything shows up for ya.


Later!!!

SB

Thanks for the link.