03-27-2006, 02:36 AM
Cidien Wrote:No offense to your grandpa, but it's still stupid to compare germany in ww2 to america...
And I call them terrorists because instead of attacking a uniformed army they attack civilians on purpose. They attack their OWN goddamn civilians on purpose.
Also, I still don't know how you people can say it's an illigitimate or illegal war. Show me where it's illegal. The UN should have been in there when Saddam broke the UN sanctions the first time, never mind the second.. third... never hear any agruements to this point though, just more comments on how illegal the war is. At least people quit saying it's all for oil. How we're going to steal all of iraqs oil and leave them broke wah wah wah.
"the media is controlled by 5 main corporations, all right wing conservatives. you think you've never been lied too?"
Which is populated of I believe 80% liberals....
"bush sounds like a dumbass."
Have you ever heard him speak? Not the three second clips the media gets every once in a while of him slipping on his words. I mean in person. I heard him in person and wasn't expecting much. He was one of the best speakers i've heard, and he was talking about something as boring as social security reform...
Zaggato, I so know how you feel. But you don't have to move it.
You still don't know why the vast majority of the world sees this war as illegal? You must have heard the arguments a thousand times but if you choose not to remember them, well what can we say. All I'll say is I'd rather have someone break economic UN sanctions then break the foundation of the UN as in no country attacks another (non threatening) country on its own. I'd so like to type another page up but we've been there, done that and if you keep your head in the sand there's not much we can do.
You saying Bush is the best speaker ever made me laugh so hard and get mad at the same time cause either that's all you've heard or,... I can't think up another reason. He is so bad when speaking in public its embarrising for the most powerfull country in the world that they have a president which has a problem pronouncing half the words in the english dictionary. And he is soo slow its sleep inducing. Its like 3 words, 2 second pauze while looking at the crowd with that fake smile and then another 3 words. I've seen many speeches of him including the 3 presidential election debates in full and he's just repeating what he's been told. He comes across as not even understanding what he's saying. And yes, the 3 second clips you're talking about represent him very very well. Its not like its 1 or 2 clips. There are dozens of those mistakes. Its not bad luck, he just sucks at public speaking. Plus, he ALWAYS says the same things. You should watch the daily show a bit more (and no, that's not what I base my opinion on, but damn, they're good making fun of Bush and often they're right in pointing out mistakes and stupid stuff, and it might be good for you to watch the extreme's of the other side).
Take a look at a Clinton speech or interview and you'll see how its suppose to be done, that guy has brains. I'll guarantee you that Bush will never have an all out interview with european (bbc) television. He would not be able to handle the critical questions from journalists with twice his IQ and he knows it. I've never seen a critical interview with Bush, its always giving him the opporunity to show people his point of view, not discuss his policy's with people who oppose it. FFS, his wife would be a better speaker and he knows it and puts her next to him in every interview. I think he's scared because he can't defend himself with his own words.
I have a feeling you're someone that'll never, ever vote someting other that republican and you change your beliefs to whatever theirs are. I think you're born into a republican family like so many americans. It just sucks that you can't think for yourselfs. That's why this moron (Bush) is elected again. Over here we look at each party with a blank slate every election. Its not uncomon to vote for the left one election and vote right 4 years later if you agree with their points. In america i think the majority is so stuck with either republican or democrat party that they'll vote for them regardless because they don't know anything else.