03-16-2006, 05:33 PM
Andromeda18_ Wrote:Now, If that's all the anime you've watched let me tell you you really haven't watched much anime at all. Definitely not enough to go around preaching about what an anime fan really is. Believe me, the vast majority of people here have watched so much more and so much better!
Want to see some awesome anime? Try Cowboy Bebop, Wolf's Rain, Samurai Champloo, Samura 7, Haibane Renmei, Witch Hunter Robin, Full Metal Alchemist, Otogizoushi, Mushishi, Last Exile (these last 3 are my personal favourites), Twelve Kingdoms, Madlax... and this is just to name a few.
For starters, this is not all that i have seen. its not even all i own. its just the complete collections that i own. most of those anime you listed i have seen. (haibane renmei is a one of my top 5 favorites. If you can tell me the deeper meaning of the story, then my trust in you will be greatly increased).
Andromeda18_ Wrote:The thing about Beethoven is that he's popular but he isn't. He's popular in the sense that everybody knows who he is, but nowadays he isn't popular in the true sense of the word. Beethoven isn't "Widely liked or appreciated" anymore. We've all heard of him but only a few actually like him. You can't deny the vast majority of people nowadays don't like classical music. If Beethoven wasn't already a great historical figure, it wouldn't be thanks to the people of our time that his name would prevail. The reason why Beethoven is considered great, even by people that don't really like him and that don't really have the capacity to understand his greatness, is because it's common practice to say he's great. Most people just repeat what others tell them without really knowing what they're saying, and that's why everybody still says Beethoven is great. The ones that loved his music said he was great and since back then those who loved his music were many, the greatness of his talent was spread to the four corners of the world. He became recognized as great because he was liked by many and this just proves that personal taste plays a role when it comes to determine if something's good or not. Perfect technique plays its role but art is more than just technique.
you are wrong about beethoven not being widely liked or appreciated. you obviously havent been musically trained correctly. more people appreciate his music than you know. he is a musical genius. not one musician today can even compare. the closest one would have to be john williams. i have been playing piano for 13 years and i know that not even i understand his music. now this doesnt mean i cant play the music. there is a difference between playing and knowing. if anyone says that his music is bad then they know nothing about music. they may not like the music but saying its bad is incorrect.
Andromeda18_ Wrote:Ever heard of Rachmaninoff? He composed some of the most (if not the most) difficult piano concertos ever, yet how many know his name? I'm not saying he was better than Beethoven, obviously, but if writing difficult and technically perfect classical music was all there was to being called great then he's name should be known by all.
yes i have heard of him and yes he is difficult but that doesnt justify greatness. now i'm not saying he isnt great because he is. one of the greatest. its irrelevant if a person knows his name or not. he is still great.
gubi-gubi Wrote:How are any of those titles rare or underground that you've had to sniff out? The movies are pretty damn basic and have been shown on TV and in cinemas. The TV section looks like the bargain bin at any dvd store. I don't think you have the right to judge anyone elses tastes in anime.
i never said what i own is rare or underground. i never said it was hard to find them. you missunderstood what i said. read it again. what makes the movies made from an Oscar winning anime director "pretty damn basic"?? those are good movies. and no i didnt get my shows from "the bargain bin" haha. dvd store yes. dvds in general are about the same price. unless they are really old or in thinkpack wich i tend to stray away from because they dont have extras like the regular dvds have. i have spent close to $1400 on my anime. thats not a bargain. lol.
oh and one last thing. beethoven wasn't in the clasical era, he was in the romantic.