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JunkieJoe Wrote:Global Warming and Kyoto are all bullshit.... its a scare mongering tactics just like Y2K was... billions of dollars wasted...

the same "scientists" that were screaming global cooling now changed their tune to global warming...
there is a petition of 16000, scientists and other intelectuals are say that science behind Kyoto is WRONG!

Carbon Dioxide is not polutant, we breath it out, plants consume it... too much of it? should be stop breathing or put tax on our breathing?

Climate changes happen, did Dinosaurs have coal burning plants that effected their climate and caused Ice age? earth had a few Ice ages and Warm ages... as recent as 1300-1400? was a mini Ice age... did the Technologically Savy Dark Ages cause it?? Give me a break...

Global warming = we all drown... ok Physics 101: if you have an Iceberg in the water... it ALREADY displacing the same volume it would be if it melted... aka, if you have a glass of water + ice cubes, when ice cubes melt the water doesnt overflow the glass...

second: you say that alot of Ice on the Poles are on land? and the above Archimede's Prinicle doesnt apply.. ok, I will skip telling you that the temptarute on the poles keeps dropping and the satelite images showing the ice on poles growing... I will tell you this, in order for the Ice in the poles to melt, temprature has to rise 50-60 degrees C, that would make tempratures around the Globe near and over the boiling point... thus humans would be long dead by then to worry about the flooding.

I rest my case.

Do not blindly accept all the bullshit that is spoon fed to you at Universities or the National Geographic Channel etc etc... there is billions of dollars at stake at researching this, the Computer Model that was used for Kyoto has been discredited and the "scientist" that wrote it is under investigation for fraud...


the money is better spent at cleaning up poluted areas etc etc... and dont take your science from Hollywood movies, heck there was a reel about "science of "the day after tomorrow" and real scientists talked about what kind of bullshit it was... I mean imagine flooding of new york and no flooding of mexico... go figure. (gravity must be pulling the water away from mexico and into the northen hemisphere! thats what Dr. Sukuzi would say, who is the primary driver behind Kyoto and whos "Scientific title of Dr comes from him being a BUG expert, not a climatologist)

For starters CO2 isn't the only pollutant causing Global Warming, carbon monoxide is also to blame. Also, the CO2 doing all the damage isn't the one we exhale but the one produced by industries. And you say that plants consume it? Sure they do, but there's a limit to how much plants can consume and if we keep cutting trees down the way we do there'll be no plants left to consume the CO2 we exhale much less the one we produce. Between August 2003 and August 2004, Brazil lost more than 26,000 square kilometers of forest (an area larger than Israel) and since 1978, over 530,000 square kilometers of Amazon rainforest have been destroyed. There's a reason why the Amazon forest is called the Earth's Lung but we just keep on destroying it.

Now when it comes to taking my science from Hollywood movies, I don't! I saw a documentary and happened to noticed many of the things they were talking about were similar to what had happened in the movie. Similar, not equal, the movie obviously had a lot of stupid things going on. I'm quite able to tell the difference!
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Now, if you don't want to believe in Global Warming that's your choice but if you read the bit of the article I posted before then you know that respected scientific organizations such as The American Geophysical Union and The National Academy of Sciences, which are neither Universtities nor the National Geographic Channel, have undertaken studies that show Global Warming is very real and have warned the world about it hundreds of times.
Yes, it's normal for the planet to warm up after an ice age but in 2003 The American Geophysical Union issued a consensus statement declaring, ?Natural influences cannot explain the rapid increase in global near-surface temperatures.?
Quote:As best as can be determined, the world is now warmer than it has been at any point in the last two millennia, and, if current trends continue, by the end of the century it will likely be hotter than at any point in the last two million years.

When it comes to the poles the truth is they are indeed melting. No matter how many theories say that it takes a rise in temperature of 50-60 degrees celcius it
Quote:can be measured and observed directly: the Arctic is melting

Assuming the Kyoto protocol is flawed that doesn't mean Globar Warming isn't real. The National Academy of Sciences is against the Kyoto protocol yet they alone have issued nearly two hundred reports on global warming. However, one thing must be said about this, scientists don't agree! You'll be lucky if you get them to agree at what time the sun will be rising tomorrow. Even in The National Academy of Sciences they don't agree with each other about this whole Global Warming thing but one thing they all know
Quote:that greenhouse gases are accumulating in Earth's atmosphere as a result of human activities, causing surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures to rise, etc.
( as said by Richard Lindzen, professor of meteorology at MIT, one of the 11 people from the NAS who prepared a report on climate change, in response to a request from the White House).

Which scientists are right and which scientists are wrong? Only time will tell I suppose. The evidence of our pollution is overwhelming, the real cause of argument are it's consequences. Personaly, I prefer to believe it's real and take the necessary precautions. Better safe than sorry.
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