07-10-2005, 08:39 AM
geo85 Wrote:There were much better countries to focus on than Iraq. Just so its said at least once, the US put Sadam into power to over throw the previous dictator, we also gave binladen the money training and weapons he needed to fight off russia but then turned and used to start al-queada,(part of the reason binladen hates the US is beacause after giving them the waepons and training to fight off russia we left and their country was in complete dissarray and needed rebuliding but that was too much for us)we also went into africa during the cold war to spy on russia and gave the leaders in the area weapons and military training to let us stay, those leaders are some of the people committing genocide in africa right now. So all of these are noble causes then.
The only thing that has come out of the war in Iraq besides a lot of US soilders dying is Bush lining his pockets with millions because the oil prices are soo high oh and cheney too.
A very intelligent post. The only thing you have to remember is thoughs decisions were made at different times, by different administrations, who had no foresight. They were all about fighting off the U.S.S.R. at the time, and had tunnel vision because of it. That is what worries me about pulling out now. If we did, every one in the country would probably hate us for doing a half-assed job and leave them in a worse situation than they started. If we leave now, another dictator WILL rise to power. If we stay until the country is strong enough in both military power and confident enough in their own devices of thought and spirit, then Iraq will stand on its own. It will be freed from internal chaotic turbulence, and will experience peace, with out having a foot on their necks. (cause they had peace before we went over there, but peace under a dictator, is just repression of self)
And like I said before, there is more at stake here for the U.S. then just freeing a country. Making a strong ally in the Middle East is what I perceive to be our truest objective over there. There would be so many benefits to having them with us, it is hard to articulate them all. But our Intel we can gather from them would be the most pertinent one.
I do have to agree that money is made off oil though. But we aren't getting any more from anywhere. The fighting just causes prices to rise on what we already have (gas jumped 25 cents a gallon two days ago :mad: ), but it is also building materials have sky rocketed as well. I found this out when we had to buy lumber for the reconstruction of our house last year.