10-24-2004, 07:02 PM
multipak... I'm still handing out 3 day bans for name calling and personal attacks. You just earned yours.
Cidien, welcome back. I'm sorry to have banned you. My original warning was brought about by certain pissing comments made by one of our younger members. He listened to my warning and has avoided a ban for that reason.
I believe that Al Qaeda has a good reason for attacking the US. I'm sad that they feel that the only way they can be heard globally is through terrorism. If US foreign policy respected more sovereign rights then global antipathy towards our nation (I am still a US citizen and I do vote) would be much less. Too often, the US has applied force in other countries unsanctioned by the UN to serve the political agendas of whatever leader happened to be in office at the time.
The only time I see reason for the use of force is to wipe out a group bent on ethnic cleansing of any type. If a group is founded on hatred for a group of people based on the colour of their skin, what god they worship, or how they practice love then the foundation of that group is flawed and puts them in a position that cannot be negotiated with. Until it is made clear to the world that the position of that group is inflexible in its mandate to cleanse the world of a particular group then negotiations should be attempted.
Hitler and the Nazi party is an excellent example of a group dedicated to the cleansing of "unpure" peoples. I believe a fair amount of time was given to negotiations prior to the Allies joining together to kick the Reich's collective ass. To this day, most Germans live with the shame that their country spawned that particular evil.
In the case of Al Qaeda, they appear to actually be fighting for something. Their case has been distorted by the media and coloured by their poor choice of trying to be heard. I would like a candid conversation with one of them to find out what it is they feel is worth dying for and taking the lives of others in the process. I don't know of any religious text in the world that suggests cleansing the globe of unbelievers.
Cidien, welcome back. I'm sorry to have banned you. My original warning was brought about by certain pissing comments made by one of our younger members. He listened to my warning and has avoided a ban for that reason.
I believe that Al Qaeda has a good reason for attacking the US. I'm sad that they feel that the only way they can be heard globally is through terrorism. If US foreign policy respected more sovereign rights then global antipathy towards our nation (I am still a US citizen and I do vote) would be much less. Too often, the US has applied force in other countries unsanctioned by the UN to serve the political agendas of whatever leader happened to be in office at the time.
The only time I see reason for the use of force is to wipe out a group bent on ethnic cleansing of any type. If a group is founded on hatred for a group of people based on the colour of their skin, what god they worship, or how they practice love then the foundation of that group is flawed and puts them in a position that cannot be negotiated with. Until it is made clear to the world that the position of that group is inflexible in its mandate to cleanse the world of a particular group then negotiations should be attempted.
Hitler and the Nazi party is an excellent example of a group dedicated to the cleansing of "unpure" peoples. I believe a fair amount of time was given to negotiations prior to the Allies joining together to kick the Reich's collective ass. To this day, most Germans live with the shame that their country spawned that particular evil.
In the case of Al Qaeda, they appear to actually be fighting for something. Their case has been distorted by the media and coloured by their poor choice of trying to be heard. I would like a candid conversation with one of them to find out what it is they feel is worth dying for and taking the lives of others in the process. I don't know of any religious text in the world that suggests cleansing the globe of unbelievers.
Gullible isn't in the dictionary.