10-20-2004, 10:34 AM
"France didn't join you because they didn't believe 1. Iraq had WMD 2. Iraq was a threat. Both of which I agree. You think its because France has financiel stakes in the region if I'm correct. You say that's the reason France didn't join the coalition, I say money is one of the reasons the US went there in the first place."
France, Russia and Germany all had oil to lose by the U.S. invading Iraq. Funny that they were the three countries most against the war... As for the U.S. being greedy, we could be greedy but we havn't touched one extra drop of oil from that country. But yes, I think we should protect our interests there as well.
"Cidien: Don't you agree that the war in Iraq was not good for the war on terror? That it probably created terrorist instead of getting rid of them and America isn't safer now? (BTW, thanks for showing your an inteligent voter by showing that you don't agree with everything Bush in that other thread)."
I don't agree with everything Bush does, but until i'm proven wrong I agree with the war in Iraq. Until I talk to soldiers coming home that tell me the war is lost and Bush was wrong I will support the soldiers and what they are doing. How many people live in Iraq? I believe it's 50 million? 50 million iraqis are going to be able to vote in an upcoming election for whoever they choose. Whoever THEY choose. I think that's worth taking out Saddam. The only problem is the U.S. isn't powerful enough to help more countries at once. No, I don't think we are creating more terrorists. At least, I don't think we're creating more terrorists than we are killing. Like I said, we're seeing more terrorists come out now because we've backed them into a corner. I could be wrong, but we won't know that until years from now. However, i'm not one to support a president that sits on his ass and does nothing.
"Bush never mentiones those 250 times he voted for."
Please show me the voting records where Kerry has voted against raising taxes. I'd really like to see them, because i've looked up his records before and i've never seen this.
"I will miss the Bushisms. Not matter how bad a day i am having, knowing that someone can say such retarded things makes me feel a smidgeon better about myself."
Nice, lol. Ya know, if Bush was a charismatic as Reagan we wouldn't have half the problems we do now. Why does he have to look like an idiot damnit, lol.
"He has, with help from 911, steered our economy towards the wood chipper."
Really? Is that why our economy is on the rise?
"I and now I know there will be no social security for me when I?m old (even though it?s not all his fault)."
1) There will be.
2) Then why bring it up.
"NOT because they had WMD but because while most-everyone else in the United Nations wussed out when he wouldn?t let inspectors in he decided to go find out for himself."
Well said.
'I don't like Bush or Kerry to be honest. I don't really think much will change if we go with bush or kerry."
The entire focus of our country will change depending on who wins. This is an extremely important election.
"The one thing I think alot of people keep forgeting is the people don't elect the president, the delagates do. So no matter how many votes one or the other gets if the delagates don't vote for the person our vote is worthless. Last I checked Bush went out of his way the last 4 years to make sure Republican delagates were voted in in as many places as posible and he has also hand placed alot of judges. This election won't be like 2000. My early prediction is Kerry will take 55-65% of the vote from the people, but will lose the election by a landslide in the electoral vote which does pick the president not us"
Um... ok... whatever. Peoples votes do matter. Delagates almost always vote the way the people want. I'm not sure if delagates have ever voted against what the people want. If there has been exceptions i'd be interested to see some.
France, Russia and Germany all had oil to lose by the U.S. invading Iraq. Funny that they were the three countries most against the war... As for the U.S. being greedy, we could be greedy but we havn't touched one extra drop of oil from that country. But yes, I think we should protect our interests there as well.
"Cidien: Don't you agree that the war in Iraq was not good for the war on terror? That it probably created terrorist instead of getting rid of them and America isn't safer now? (BTW, thanks for showing your an inteligent voter by showing that you don't agree with everything Bush in that other thread)."
I don't agree with everything Bush does, but until i'm proven wrong I agree with the war in Iraq. Until I talk to soldiers coming home that tell me the war is lost and Bush was wrong I will support the soldiers and what they are doing. How many people live in Iraq? I believe it's 50 million? 50 million iraqis are going to be able to vote in an upcoming election for whoever they choose. Whoever THEY choose. I think that's worth taking out Saddam. The only problem is the U.S. isn't powerful enough to help more countries at once. No, I don't think we are creating more terrorists. At least, I don't think we're creating more terrorists than we are killing. Like I said, we're seeing more terrorists come out now because we've backed them into a corner. I could be wrong, but we won't know that until years from now. However, i'm not one to support a president that sits on his ass and does nothing.
"Bush never mentiones those 250 times he voted for."
Please show me the voting records where Kerry has voted against raising taxes. I'd really like to see them, because i've looked up his records before and i've never seen this.
"I will miss the Bushisms. Not matter how bad a day i am having, knowing that someone can say such retarded things makes me feel a smidgeon better about myself."
Nice, lol. Ya know, if Bush was a charismatic as Reagan we wouldn't have half the problems we do now. Why does he have to look like an idiot damnit, lol.
"He has, with help from 911, steered our economy towards the wood chipper."
Really? Is that why our economy is on the rise?
"I and now I know there will be no social security for me when I?m old (even though it?s not all his fault)."
1) There will be.
2) Then why bring it up.
"NOT because they had WMD but because while most-everyone else in the United Nations wussed out when he wouldn?t let inspectors in he decided to go find out for himself."
Well said.
'I don't like Bush or Kerry to be honest. I don't really think much will change if we go with bush or kerry."
The entire focus of our country will change depending on who wins. This is an extremely important election.
"The one thing I think alot of people keep forgeting is the people don't elect the president, the delagates do. So no matter how many votes one or the other gets if the delagates don't vote for the person our vote is worthless. Last I checked Bush went out of his way the last 4 years to make sure Republican delagates were voted in in as many places as posible and he has also hand placed alot of judges. This election won't be like 2000. My early prediction is Kerry will take 55-65% of the vote from the people, but will lose the election by a landslide in the electoral vote which does pick the president not us"
Um... ok... whatever. Peoples votes do matter. Delagates almost always vote the way the people want. I'm not sure if delagates have ever voted against what the people want. If there has been exceptions i'd be interested to see some.